A few months ago, I was somewhat unfairly dismissive of Grindr, in the context of a discussion of everything that’s rotten in the present state of gay-oriented social networking. Shortly before my post on the subject went live, Grindr updated their guidelines for acceptable information to display on profiles (which are hilarious to read anyway) to include rules like, “No underwear can be visible,” and “No text referring to genital size or sexual acts.” Not having used Grindr in the past 10 or so months, I of course wasn’t aware of this, and dismissed the app as just another place to see pictures of ten-inch-shlong-brandishing Calvin-Klein-briefs-wearing libido-driven imbeciles with absolutely noting to offer except casual sex.
That’s still largely the case — but as with all things Israeli (a friend recently informed me that Grindr was developed by an Israeli company; somehow, I’m not even remotely surprised), Grindr takes a little while to grow on you, and I can now admit that I was somewhat unreasonable in my previous knee-jerk assessment. So, armed with a new iPhone, I reinstalled Grindr when I got back to Florida earlier this month and sat back to watch the madness unfold.
Grindr still isn’t for the faint-hearted. While the pictures are, generally speaking, more work-safe than before (naked torsos abound, but there’s nary a pair of tight underwear in sight, thank god for that), the messages I’ve been receiving from other users are, generally speaking, not. There’s one gentleman in Aventura, near the Apple Store I work at, who, every day at 2:00pm for a week, sent me the message, “Would luv to suck ur toes, man.” When I failed to take him up on the offer, he varied the message slightly: yesterday, I received, “Would luv to suck ur toes and ass, man.” That makes all the difference, it seems, because I went from being casually amused to wholly disgusted, and blocked him immediately.
You’re also still likely to encounter people you know in other contexts on Grindr, which is a singularly awkward experience. One of my Genius Bar customers last week, for instance, saw me on Grindr and sent the rather delightful message, “Hi. You replaced my iPhone today. Give you head to say thanks?” (I politely declined, citing Apple’s policy on receiving gifts from customers.) I’ve also seen two coworkers and the Übersturmgruppenführer of Apple’s South Florida stores, all of whom, I’m pretty sure, subsequently blocked me from being able to see them.
Also out in force are the older gays in open relationships, looking for “friends,” “fun,” or “a third (or fourth or fifth).” While I respect a person’s right to enter into whatever configuration of relationship they’d like, the preponderance of open relationships in the gay community has always struck me as kind of bizarre. Are you really that likely to get bored of your partner, sexually, that you need to define the rules of the relationship such that you can suck some twink from the internet’s toes whenever the mood strikes you? Part of the appeal of monogamy, for me, has always been the sexual commitment; not only are you less likely to catch something that way (herein, my not-so-latent STI paranoia creeps up again), but I’ve found that someone who’s well acquainted with my sexual preferences (by writ of being the only person I’m having sex with, and vice versa) is likely to do a better job getting me off. Also, how does jealousy not become an issue? Can you really be in a committed, long-term relationship with someone if your dick is in someone else’s ass three nights a week?
Anyway, this is all to say that open relationships confuse the shit out of me and contribute to those few moments when I think gay people are just unremittingly slutty and terrible. But that’s not really Grindr’s fault; it’s just the vehicle for people who are already in open relationships to put their fucked up personal lives out in the open.
On these levels, though, Grindr is exactly as I remember it being: a little bit tacky, a little bit awkward, and unfailingly hilarious. Underneath the torsos and the overuse of the “TOP” emoji to circumvent the no-sexually-explicit-language filter, though, is an interesting bit of sociology: using Grindr for its intended purpose — meeting friends of the same sexual orientation — means accepting the premise that a gay person is more likely than average to get along with another gay person. (For the record, I don’t think that’s actually true; I find, usually, that I’m less likely to get along with another gay man, relative to a randomly selected member of the general population.)
Stated negatively, the problem becomes a little clearer: why isn’t there a Grindr-style tool for everyone, regardless of gender and sexual orientation? The popularity of Grindr suggests that some subset of people are willing to put small pieces of information about themselves out in the open, visible only to the people in their spatial vicinity. One explanation for that willingness is simple horniness; but, in my case, and in the cases of a few people I’ve spoken with, I genuinely don’t think that hooking up is always on the agenda. Some people are actually on Grindr to find friends.
As an introvert, the idea of a browsable catalog of people around me at any moment in time is extremely appealing. My problem, I’ve discovered, isn’t that I have nothing to talk about with someone once I meet him or her (I’m actually quite good at small talk, once it gets going), but rather that I have difficulty knowing how to approach people I don’t know, or even which people are worth approaching. There’s an extremely good chance that any given person sitting near me in a Starbucks will turn out to be boring. But, with a hypothetical Grindr-for-the-rest-of-us, I could learn at least a little about the people near me before expending the effort required to speak to them; that way, I can instantly filter out some significant proportion of people who, from my perspective, would be uninteresting.
The obvious rejoinder is that normal fucking people would resolve this problem by walking up to strangers, saying hello, and getting over their own little psychoses in order to make new friends. But, as a firm believer in the mantra that technology is supposed to make our lives easier, no matter how absurd the issue in question seems, I see no particular reason why giving people the ability to find interesting individuals in their general vicinities is any more absurd than, say, mobile e-mail would have been in 1992. It all reduces to a question of efficiency, and undoubtedly, the ways we meet and befriend people have almost always been inefficient. (For evidence, see the few disenfranchised children on a playground in almost any school.) Assuming that Grindr’s success doesn’t just reduce to a desire for casual sex (and that’s not an uncontroversial assumption, but it’s one I’m willing to entertain), there’s no reason why its strategy of introducing people electronically shouldn’t work more broadly.
I don’t think your logic makes sense re: open relationships…
“[The] preponderance of open relationships in the gay community has always struck me as kind of bizarre.”
I think the preponderance of open relations in the gay community is quite the opposite of bizarre — it’s predictable and positive. When a community is defined by its non-normative sexual expression, shouldn’t we expect it to challenge a wide variety of sexual norms beyond simply heterosexuality? During the gay liberation movement, the whole point was to discover, create and experiment with alternate forms of pleasure — a strategic ethos I think both gay and straight people have benefited from alike.
“Are you really that likely to get bored of your partner, sexually, that you need to define the rules of the relationship such that you can suck some twink from the internet’s toes whenever the mood strikes you?”
Given that something like half of all married men (and a little less than half of all married woman) report having cheated on their spouse, I think the answer is a resounding yes. Why shouldn’t couples work towards a system that discourages dishonesty by allowing for increased sexual permissiveness? It doesn’t have to be “whenever the mood strikes you;” I’ve met plenty of couples who have negotiated various rules for their sex lives (outside partners only in threesomes, sex with others only when partners are away from each other, etc.) that work for them.
“I’ve found that someone who’s well acquainted with my sexual preferences (by writ of being the only person I’m having sex with, and vice versa) is likely to do a better job getting me off.”
Since when are couples in open relationships not aware of each other’s sexual preferencesr? A lot of sex with the same person leads to knowing how to get that person off — not sexual exclusivity.
“Also, how does jealousy not become an issue?”
Is jealousy not an issue in monogamous relationships?
“Can you really be in a committed, long-term relationship with someone if your dick is in someone else’s ass three nights a week?”
I think that depends on who you are and what you’re looking for in a relationship. I certainly don’t feel qualified to make universal judgments about what makes relationships work.
For one thing, I don’t believe in using phrases like “strategic ethos” to describe behaviors that include old men in relationships offering to suck my toes. You can make the queer theoretic case for being accepting of divergent relationships and modes of sexual expression, but, for my part, I’m unable to see the actions of many of the people I’ve found on Grindr as driven by any kind of liberating logic of finding new modes of sexual expression — it’s hedonism, pure and simple, and I find it, generally, disgusting.
Moreover, I think the reclassification of casual sex as resistance/liberation that took place in the 1970s and 80s is dangerous in a very concrete sense. I’ve read the queer theory on the subject — but I’ve also read some pretty persuasive accounts of how, in the face of HIV/AIDS in the late 70s and 80s, the queer community used being oppressed and seeking alternative sexualities as an excuse to ignore public health realities. Casual sex, or open relationships, or hooking up on the internet are not exclusively questions of ideology; they’re questions of the probability of transmission of disease — and, undoubtedly, certain sexual practices (for instance, the promiscuity rampant in the queer community and endorsed by you as a “strategic ethos”) contribute to that moreso than others.
This is all to say that while, yes, I agree with you that neither of us are qualified to make universal judgements about what makes relationships work (or not), there are certain practices that seem to have a high incidence in the gay male community that I see as an unfortunate legacy of an unsafe past. And, for my part, I would continue to describe those practices as “bizarre.”
Yikes, I never realized you replied to this.
Public health proclamations have been tainted by homophobia since the start of the AIDS crisis, and I would imagine that is at least as much to blame for queer people’s supposed avoidance of “public health realities” in the 70s and 80s. Yes, reducing your sexual partners reduces your chances of catching an STD (providing you always have protected sex), but stigmatizing people who enjoy lots of sex with lots of people does nothing to hamper the spread of HIV. What it does do is enable people to continue placing blame on HIV patients as if they “deserved” the disease (and therefore do not deserve medical support and funding for further research into treatment and prevention). That kind of stigmatization perpetuates a vicious cycle of alienated queers distrustful of the medical establishment and too defeated to put sound public health advice (like consistent condom use) into practice.
Furthermore, studies repeatedly show that with consistent condom use, transmission of HIV is extremely rare — in one study of sero-discordant couples who consistently used condoms, none of the 123 couples experienced seroconversion. Anecdotally, I know that many sexually exclusive couples don’t bother using condoms. Given the astoundingly high rates of infidelity, it wouldn’t surprise me if they put themselves at much higher risk for HIV transmission than individuals who always use condoms and fuck a bunch of people.
Sex is a powerful force and personally, I find it neither unreasonable nor “bizarre” for people to decide that the benefits of promiscuous sex outweigh the potential risks.
You have essentially written down exactly how I feel about Grindr but have not yet been able to verbalize or write. My issues with Grindr tend to revolve around: a) guys who are spiteful to me because they take offense to the fact that I’m not constantly looking for immediate NSA sex (as though there could be no other purpose to such an amazing piece of technology to aid in the rate of their dick wetness); and b) the fact that about 75% of the guys who say “just looking for friends” are people who actually have boyfriends already. Some in an open relationship, some very much not, but still cheating. If I’m open to meeting you for a drink and maybe seeing where the night leads us… just because you’re okay with having a bf doesn’t mean that I’m okay with it. I may not be looking for boyfriend material 24/7 but just because you’re bf is okay with you looking for twinky toes to suck that doesn’t mean I’m going to automatically bed someone who is looking for daily sexcapades (it’s Grindr… it’s daily…).
Jordan’s comment – and I mean no disrespect – sounds like every other person in an open relationship that I know trying to justify to himself why it’s okay to be in an open relationship. And I know MANY. Personally, I don’t need an explanation. It’s your life, do what you want. If people are judging you, get over it. If you’re truly happy with the arrangements of your relationship then someone else’s opinion shouldn’t sway that. Yet they continue to reverberate the same kind of sentiment over and over as if to keep reminding themselves, “I’m happy… my relationship is not a failure… WE are happy… and gosh darnit people like me.”
There are very real consequences to the possible spread of disease among open relationship partners. Thankfully, the majority of my open relationship friends are very safe (or so they tell me), but there have been serious consequences to those who have not been safe… specifically someone whose sexual fetish/preference was exploring “safe” bareback sex (which I’m not even going to get into on here… that’s just… whatever). I think it can be naive to assume you know everything about your partner’s preferences, especially if that partner might have a fetish he feels ashamed about or embarrassed to admit to his snugglebunny over dinner or laundry. When the relationship opens up, suddenly there’s a vehicle to explore a “naughtier” side that a partner may not understand (or may not even be given the opportunity to try to understand).
On paper, it seems slightly reasonable to me that Jordan’s ideas are appealing to people. Ten years ago when I was coming out I would have never dreamed I would personally know so many alternate relationship arrangements (from open relationships to triads). The idea that you can find someone to grow old with — but not be worried about him running off with some hot piece of ass because of his midlife crisis at 45 — does not sound entirely crazy to me. Problem is that with the majority of the open relationships I know, if you look under the surface (sometimes just barely under the surface) – and often under the complacency – you often find two people constantly reevaluating their happiness… turning their once monogamous sexual and personal relationship into a glorified sexless (or barely sexual) friendship. It becomes a very clinical sounding partnership with little or no romance or passion. Call me naive, but maybe I’m not ready to compromise the things I want out of life. I constantly hear self-affirmations as they try to convince me – after just hearing how unhappy they are – that they are, in fact, happy… for now. If you can actually make it work for you and walk the line of barely being content, then I have no place judging. It’s just not for me.
While I’m not in an open relationship (and never have been), I certainly see a lot of justification here for why “j.e.” engages in monogamy. Pot calling the kettle black?